NFL Open Thread: Baker and Sam Edition
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Joe Posnanski summarizes the 39 QBs who before yesterday’s game had played for the post-Modell Cleveland Browns:
- Baker Mayfield: 29-30
- Tim Couch: 22-37
- Derek Anderson: 16-18
- Brian Hoyer: 10-6
- He Who Shall Not Be Named: 9-10
- Charlie Frye: 6-13
- Colt McCoy: 6-15
- Brandon Weeden: 5-15
- Joe Flacco: 4-1
- Trent Dilfer: 4-7
- Jacoby Brissett: 4-7
- Kelly Holcomb: 4-8
- Jeff Garcia: 3-7
- Brady Quinn: 3-9
- Case Keenum: 2-0
- Jake Delhomme: 2-2
- Jameis Winston: 2-5
- Johnny Football: 2-6
- Tyrod Taylor: 1-1
- P.J. Walker: 1-1
- Robert Griffin III: 1-4
- Dorian Thompson Robinson: 1-4
- Seneca Wallace: 1-6
- Doug Pederson: 1-7
- Jason Campbell: 1-7
- Josh McCown: 1-10
- Jeff Driskel: 0-1
- Bruce Gradkowski: 0-1
- Kevin Hogan: 0-1
- Thaddeus Lewis: 0-1
- Nick Mullens: 0-1
- Connor Shaw: 0-1
- Spergon Wynn: 0-1
- Austin Davis: 0-2
- Ty Detmer: 0-2
- Ken Dorsey: 0-3
- Luke McCown: 0-4
- Cody Kessler: 0-8
- Deshone Kiser: 0-15
We can now add the immortal Bailey Zappe at #34 at 0-1.
In 2020, Baker Mayfield had 6.96 A Y/A and a 26-8 TD-INT ratio. DeShaun Watson had 8.22 Y/A and a 33-7 TD-INT ratio. Both were good, the latter was better, although when you consider that Mayfield did that in for an 11-5 team that won a playoff game on the road in a strong division and Watson piled up a lot of empty calorie garbage time stats for a 4-12 team in a weak division, the gap is less than the raw stats would indicat. In 2021, however, Mayfield played most of the year with an injured shoulder and had a poor year, while Watson spend the year inactive because he was subjected to lawsuits for being a serial sexual harasser. So what did the Browns take advantage of the off year to sign Mayfield to a team favorable contract and hope he rebounded? No, of course they traded Mayfield for a $5 Kenny Rogers Roasters gift card and then traded inter alia 3 first rounders for the right to sign the sex pest to a $230 million guaranteed contract. The shady truck stop aristocats!
Without games started by Jameis Winston, the Browns would have offensive DVOA of -44.7% which would be the worst since 1978. With the Winston games, they were at -30.9% going into today which is 13th worst since 1978.— Aaron Schatz (@aschatz.bsky.social) January 4, 2025 at 2:50 PM
Speaking of awful asset management by astoundingly badly run organizations, this year Sam Darnold ranks third in the league in AY/A and Baker 8th, The Panthers had both of them before letting them walk.